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Re: [Fwd: Re: OLPC]
- To: "SmÃri McCarthy" <smari ( at ) anarchism ( dot ) is>
- Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: OLPC]
- From: "Ãvar ArnfjÃrà Bjarmason" <avarab ( at ) gmail ( dot ) com>
- Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:18:16 +0000
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On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:59 PM, SmÃri McCarthy <smari ( at ) anarchism ( dot ) is> wrote:
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> SÃlir, datt à hug aà Ãià hefÃuà Ãhuga à Ãessu, sbr umrÃÃu um daginn.
>
> Mel Chua er sumsà starfsmaÃur hjà OLPC.
>
> - SmÃri
>
>
> - -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: OLPC
> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:51:14 -0400
> From: Mel Chua <mel ( at ) melchua ( dot ) com>
> To: Marcin Jakubowski <joseph ( dot ) dolittle ( at ) gmail ( dot ) com>
> CC: Vinay Gupta <hexayurt ( at ) gmail ( dot ) com>, SmÃri McCarthy
> <smari ( at ) smari ( dot ) yaxic ( dot ) org>
> References: <e26c69b10806020547w3df06bc7yc96f1f25e9501ce7 ( at ) mail ( dot ) gmail ( dot ) com>
>
> *sigh*
>
> It's not a particularly well-informed article, imo.
>
> OLPC's paid developers are still working on an open-source stack. Always
> have been.
>
> Microsoft has paid its own developers to make XP work on the XO. Their
> time, their money, their resources, their program. (Also noting that
> hobbyists have started "Debian on the XO", "Ubuntu on the XO," etc.
> projects of their own... this is MS's corporate version, "XP on the XO.")
>
> I believe the deal is that Microsoft will purchase XO laptops in
> gargantuan quantities (like countries can purchase them in gargantuan
> quantities) and then do whatever the heck it likes with them for large
> country-wide rollouts, if those countries want to go through MS instead
> of the OSS community. XOs aren't going to appear on Wal-mart shelves
> running Windows, or be available to individual US customers that want a
> cheap Windows laptop. MS will do tech support for those, handle
> deployment for those, OLPC isn't going to deal with that; our volunteers
> aren't going to help someone troubleshoot their Windows computer anyway.
>
> The OSS stack will continue to be available to countries, via G1G1 when
> the second round of the program opens up - my impression is that the OSS
> stack is going to be "OLPC" and "the default," and MS is just setting up
> their own alternative programme with the stream of hardware they're
> getting on the side.
>
> "The move has led to the resignation of two key project leaders" - if
> they mean Ivan and Walter, that was long before the deal with Microsoft,
> and for other reasons, from what I've heard.
>
> This is by no means the definitive word on the subject, but this is my
> personal view of the situation after talking to many people and sitting
> in at many meetings at the office figuring out the situation, and
> handling a lot of emails from friends and fellow volunters about "what's
> up with OLPC and MS?" like this one. ;)
>
> - -Mel
>
> Marcin Jakubowski wrote:
>> Mel,
>>
>> What is your opinion on the Microsoft involvement with OLPC? I just saw
>> an article on this.
>>
>> http://onthecommons.org/content.php?id=1917
>>
>> Marcin
>
> - --
> SmÃri McCarthy
> smari ( at ) yaxic ( dot ) org http://smari.yaxic.org
> (+354) 662 2701 - "Technology is about people"
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Hvà Ivan hÃtti:
http://radian.org/notebook/maintaining-clarity
http://radian.org/notebook/sic-transit-gloria-laptopi
Stallman um XP Ã OLPC:
http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/can-we-rescue-olpc-from-windows